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PODCAST 145: Lessons Learned From Winning by Design with Jacco van der Kooij

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He holds a BSc in electrical engineering and an executive MBA from the University of Leicester. And yet, the cab outside is honking the horn, because I had to catch a flight to fly to Denver to meet up with my client, EcoStar. Jacco van der Kooij : Historically we look at ways of meeting with a person like you and I are.

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SaaStr Podcast #388 with Okta CMO Ryan Carlson

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I studied electrical engineering. Ryan Carlson: And so for tech startups, when they’re small, the product story and the company story are one and the same, but as they get bigger, the company story starts to take on a different angle. I started in Silicon Valley a long time ago. It takes on more significance.